DAVO'S
no sweat GI
Veteran Locator

 

  
by  Dave 'Davo' Holdorf
15th Group Leader

   

NAMES & UNIT INFORMATION:

1) You can obtain morning rosters of the unit you were in by contacting the National Personnel Records Center. You must fill out a Standard Form 180 that can be downloaded from http://www.nara.gov/regional/mpr.htmll, browse the site for forms and instructions.

They will ask for a copy of your DD-214 Form Discharge Certificate along with the request.

If you don’t know the unit you were in, send for your DD-214 Discharge Form. As long as you’re asking for info, you may as well request your 201 Personnel File that will have all the places you were, and request your medical records. Every GI should have a copy of these on hand anyway, for reference. Send the request to the St. Louis address listed.

Morning rosters will have most of the names of the men you worked with, ask for the dates six months before and after you were in service. There will be a fee for the rosters. They are copied from micro film. There should NOT be a fee for any personal records. They may suggest that you have local college students do the search for rosters due to the fact it does take a lot of time and they want to use that time for mostly personal searches. Tell them you wish to pay the fee, it’s about $8.50 to start, and about $12-$15 per hour for morning rosters.

There is also info at the site mentioned for sending "Blind" letters to buddies you wish to contact. The Veterans Administration also allows "Blind" letters, you can call your local VA and ask for three names at a time to see if your buddy is listed anywhere in the states.

Each mans name on the roster will have a service number or social security number listed after the name, in addition to rank, Military Occupation Specialty code ( MOS ), secondary MOS ( job they may have been doing although they had a different mos ), and the dates ETS: for discharge, Eligible to Return: from overseas unless they extended, and SPED: date they were inducted or enlisted. There is also a race column: 1 = Caucasian, 2 = African American, 3-5 not in order …American Indian, Hispanic, Puerto-Rican, 6 = Mexican.

Military MOS Numbers List:
http://grunt.space.swri.edu/mosindex.html

   …this will help you narrow your search.

2) http://www.militaryusa.com is a site that has a Vietnam data base you can use to confirm your buddies name, match MOS’s, rank, search for a middle initial, and has service men were in.

INTERNET PHONE BOOKS:

1) Yahoo People Search: Fill in the boxes and go…try e-mails first, then phone numbers. If using a middle initial and no-results, try it w/o, then variations of the first or last name. As in all searching on the Internet, start with full names, then no middle initial, then Ed after Edward, then E for the first name. Write down or print out the e-mail numbers, Send "Blind" e-mails to all those who look like matches, look for middle initials in the addresses. Then search phone numbers and cold-call the phone numbers that look close.

Watch for relatives in both modes, in areas you feel are correct.

2) AnyWho is another phone search directory, but has various "Reverse" search modes. It also has area code search and exchange search if you have a phone number and you want to know where it’s from. You’ll find both directories faster in early morning or late evening.

INTERNET SEARCH ENGINE:

Another source of searching can be found at http://www.alltheweb.com  Use "Exact Phrase" mode at first, then "All-the words" mode. There are many other web search engines out there, but I’ve found this the best. Again, start with all the info typed in the search box, and then shorten it: John D. Doe Jr. , John D. Doe, John Doe, J. D. Doe, J. Doe. Search anything you want in this way!

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS:

The first three numbers indicate the ONE state the Vet was inducted or enlisted from. An up-dated list and explanation of these can be found and downloaded at the web site http://ssa.gov/employer_info/statessn.htmll

Morning Rosters will come from the National Personnel Records Center with service numbers in view, however the social security numbers will be written over w/black magic marker.
   

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ALLOCATIONS
(1st three numbers = State)

001-317

318-517

518-728

001-003 New Hampshire

318-361
Illinois

518-519
Idaho

004-007
Maine

362-386
Michigan

520-520
Wyoming

008-009
Vermont

387-399
Wisconsin

521-524
Colorado

010-034
Mass.

400-407
Kentucky

525+585
New Mexico

035-039
Rhode Island

408-415
Tennessee

526-527
Arizona

040-049
Connecticut

416-424
Alabama

528-529
Utah

050-134
New York

425-428
Mississippi

530-530
Nevada

135-158
New Jersey

429-432
Arkansas

531-539
Washington

159-211
Pennsylvania

433-439
Louisiana

540-544
Oregon

212-220
Maryland

440-448
Oklahoma

545-573
California

221-222
Delaware

449-467
Texas

574-574
Alaska

223-231
Virginia

468-477
Minnesota

575-576
Hawaii

232-236
West Virginia

478-485
Iowa

577-579
D.C.

237-246 +232
N. Carolina

486-500
Missouri

580-580
Virgin Islands

247-251
S. Carolina

501-502
North Dakota

580-584
Puerto Rico

252-260
Georgia

503-504
South Dakota

586-586
Guam

261-267
Florida

505-508
Nebraska

586-586
Am. Samoa

268-302
Ohio

509-515
Kansas

586-586
Philippines

303-317
Indiana

516-517
Montana

700-728
R.R. Board

  

  

   

Not Yet Allocated

587-649

650-699

729-763

587-588
Mississippi

650-653
Colorado

729-749
???

589-595
Florida

654-658
S. Carolina

750-751
Hawaii

596-599
Puerto Rico

659-665
Louisiana

752-755
Mississippi

600-601
Arizona

667-675
Georgia

756-763
Tennessee

602-626
California

676-679
Arkansas

 

627-645
Texas

680-680
Nevada

 

646-647
Utah

681-690
N. Carolina

 

648-649
New Mexico

691-699
Virginia

 

     

  

  

NATIONAL GUARD

Enlisted National Guard (Service) Numbers 20,000,000-20,999,999: 1940-1946

Numbers starting 21 thru 29: 1946-1969 
E-mail for Details: hidavo@earthlink.net

SERVICE NUMBERS:

These are a bit tougher, as they lead you to 3 to 12 states the Vets were from. The following list shows RA (Regular Army 3-Year vets) and US (2-Year Inductees)

RA       State

RA-11    CT, ME, MA, NH, RI, VT

RA-12   DE, NJ, NY

RA-13    MD, PA, VA

RA-14    AL, FL, GA, MS, NC, SC, TN

RA-15   IN, OH, KY, WV

RA-16   IL, MI, WI

RA-17  CO, IA, KS, MN, MO, NE, ND, SD, WY

RA-18  AR, LA, NM, OK, TX

RA-19

AK, AZ, CA, ID, MT, NV, OR, UT, WA

RA-37   Hawaii for 1940-46 draftees

RA-67
RA-68   UNKNOWN…not issued by states, issued by Army

RA-101   Hawaii (RA/US 37 for 1940-46 draftees)

RA-102   Panama (RA/US 302 for 1940-46 draftees)

RA-104   Puerto Rico (RA/US 304 for 1940-46 draftees)

RA-302    Panama for 1940-46 draftees

RA-304    Puerto Rico for 1940-46 draftees

  

  

US   State

US-37   Hawaii for 1940-46 draftees

US-50   AK, HI, Panama, PR

US-51  CT, DE, MA, ME, NH, NJ, NY, RI, VT

US-52  IN, KY, MD, OH, PA, VA, WV

US-53  AL, FL, GA, MS, NC, SC, TN

US-54  AR, LA, NM, OK, TX

US-55  CO, IL, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, NE, ND, SD, WI, WY

US-56   AZ, CA, ID, MT, NV, OR, UT, WA

US-63   US-64
US-67
US-68    UNKNOWN…not issued by states, issued by the Army and probably mean the year issued(?)

US-302  Panama for 1940-46 draftees

US-304  Puerto Rico for 1940-46 draftees

US-501   Panama (RA/US 302 for 1940-46 draftees) Puerto Rico (RA/US 304 for 1940-46 draftees)

US-502   AK

  

    Numbers starting with NG = National Guard  ER = Enlisted Reserve.  These are not found too often, but I do have the info upon request. I have not made a list to send via e-mail.

Officers are usually not listed on morning rosters, and are the hardest to find. I find most via orders men send in. Officers are more prone to NOT be in the states born in, enlisted and inducted men who have more of the blue-collar type jobs, I’ve found IN or near their original states.

AMERICAN WAR LIBRARY on the Internet: I’ve tried the service, couldn’t ever get in via phone modem, I now feel it is not worth the money.

PRO-CD PHONE BOOKS: At the cost of about $130.00 per year with limited print-outs, the store-bought computer program is useful in the fact that it gives you the closest 100 matches to what you enter into the search. In addition, you can look up the neighbor next door with a click, use map search, and do reverse address searches that I’ve found very handy. Included is a business search, and street atlas. I’ve found Vets by calling the people next door!

COPIES OF ORDERS: Ask your association members to look for orders they brought back from overseas, some have. They list up to, and sometimes over, 100 vets.

ASK FOR HELP: Other than having a web site that can be surfed to, searching can be very time consuming. Cold-calling on weekends and off-business hours can easily run in excess of $100.00 per month.

COLD-CALLING: Prepare a short introduction to introduce yourself…with all the tele-marketer’s calling these days, you’ll soon notice a bit of an attitude from some. However, if you can get all the important info into your first or second sentence, you won’t get a hang-up. KISS: Keep it Simple Stupid!..
Hello, is this the John Doe residence? They always reply cautiously,.. I’m looking for a John D. Doe that served with the (Unit) in the Vietnam War….they will reply.

About 99.9% of the vets I find are happy to be found…we are in fact, a unique brotherhood.

Make a phone data sheet, keep it near the phone. Fill it out as you speak to the newly found member. Get all contact info, ask for names of others, old orders, etc.  I always ask for nick-names used, and a name of a close buddy I could find for them.

BOOKS: The best book I’ve found about searching for military veterans is available through Amazon.com for about $20.00
"How To Locate Anyone Who Is Or Has been In The Military" by LTC Richard S. Johnson  Order book from Amazon.com

POSTAL TIP:
Always write: "1st Class Mail, Change Service Requested"
next to the address on the front of envelopes to veterans. This will improve your chances of receiving an address correction if they have moved recently.

GOOD LUCK SEARCHING!
"Davo" - 7/15th Vietnam 


Information written and compiled by:
Dave Holdorf
15th Field Artillery
Group Leader


   

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