DAVO'S
no sweat GI
Veteran Locator
by Dave 'Davo' Holdorf
15th Group Leader
NAMES & UNIT INFORMATION:
1) You can obtain morning rosters of the unit you were in by contacting the National Personnel Records Center. You must fill out a Standard Form 180 that can be downloaded from http://www.nara.gov/regional/mpr.htmll, browse the site for forms and instructions.
They will ask for a copy of your DD-214 Form Discharge Certificate along with the request.
If you dont know the unit you were in, send for your DD-214 Discharge Form. As long as youre asking for info, you may as well request your 201 Personnel File that will have all the places you were, and request your medical records. Every GI should have a copy of these on hand anyway, for reference. Send the request to the St. Louis address listed.
Morning rosters will have most of the names of the men you worked with, ask for the dates six months before and after you were in service. There will be a fee for the rosters. They are copied from micro film. There should NOT be a fee for any personal records. They may suggest that you have local college students do the search for rosters due to the fact it does take a lot of time and they want to use that time for mostly personal searches. Tell them you wish to pay the fee, its about $8.50 to start, and about $12-$15 per hour for morning rosters.
There is also info at the site mentioned for sending "Blind" letters to buddies you wish to contact. The Veterans Administration also allows "Blind" letters, you can call your local VA and ask for three names at a time to see if your buddy is listed anywhere in the states.
Each mans name on the roster will have a service number or social security number listed after the name, in addition to rank, Military Occupation Specialty code ( MOS ), secondary MOS ( job they may have been doing although they had a different mos ), and the dates ETS: for discharge, Eligible to Return: from overseas unless they extended, and SPED: date they were inducted or enlisted. There is also a race column: 1 = Caucasian, 2 = African American, 3-5 not in order American Indian, Hispanic, Puerto-Rican, 6 = Mexican.
Military MOS Numbers List:
http://grunt.space.swri.edu/mosindex.html
this will help you narrow your search.
2) http://www.militaryusa.com is a site that has a Vietnam data base you can use to confirm your buddies name, match MOSs, rank, search for a middle initial, and has service men were in.
INTERNET PHONE BOOKS:
1) Yahoo People Search: Fill in the boxes and go try e-mails first, then phone numbers. If using a middle initial and no-results, try it w/o, then variations of the first or last name. As in all searching on the Internet, start with full names, then no middle initial, then Ed after Edward, then E for the first name. Write down or print out the e-mail numbers, Send "Blind" e-mails to all those who look like matches, look for middle initials in the addresses. Then search phone numbers and cold-call the phone numbers that look close.
Watch for relatives in both modes, in areas you feel are correct.
2) AnyWho is another phone search directory, but has various "Reverse" search modes. It also has area code search and exchange search if you have a phone number and you want to know where its from. Youll find both directories faster in early morning or late evening.
INTERNET SEARCH ENGINE:
Another source of searching can be found at http://www.alltheweb.com Use "Exact Phrase" mode at first, then "All-the words" mode. There are many other web search engines out there, but Ive found this the best. Again, start with all the info typed in the search box, and then shorten it: John D. Doe Jr. , John D. Doe, John Doe, J. D. Doe, J. Doe. Search anything you want in this way!
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS:
The first three numbers indicate the ONE state the Vet was inducted or enlisted from. An up-dated list and explanation of these can be found and downloaded at the web site http://ssa.gov/employer_info/statessn.htmll
Morning Rosters will come from the National Personnel
Records Center with service numbers in view, however the social security numbers will be
written over w/black magic marker.
(1st three numbers = State)
001-317
318-517
518-728
001-003 New Hampshire
318-361
Illinois
518-519
Idaho
004-007
Maine
362-386
Michigan
520-520
Wyoming
008-009
Vermont
387-399
Wisconsin
521-524
Colorado
010-034
Mass.
400-407
Kentucky
525+585
New Mexico
035-039
Rhode Island
408-415
Tennessee
526-527
Arizona
040-049
Connecticut
416-424
Alabama
528-529
Utah
050-134
New York
425-428
Mississippi
530-530
Nevada
135-158
New Jersey
429-432
Arkansas
531-539
Washington
159-211
Pennsylvania
433-439
Louisiana
540-544
Oregon
212-220
Maryland
440-448
Oklahoma
545-573
California
221-222
Delaware
449-467
Texas
574-574
Alaska
223-231
Virginia
468-477
Minnesota
575-576
Hawaii
232-236
West Virginia
478-485
Iowa
577-579
D.C.
237-246 +232
N. Carolina
486-500
Missouri
580-580
Virgin Islands
247-251
S. Carolina
501-502
North Dakota
580-584
Puerto Rico
252-260
Georgia
503-504
South Dakota
586-586
Guam
261-267
Florida
505-508
Nebraska
586-586
Am. Samoa
268-302
Ohio
509-515
Kansas
586-586
Philippines
303-317
Indiana
516-517
Montana
700-728
R.R. Board
Not Yet Allocated
587-649
650-699
729-763
587-588
Mississippi
650-653
Colorado
729-749
???
589-595
Florida
654-658
S. Carolina
750-751
Hawaii
596-599
Puerto Rico
659-665
Louisiana
752-755
Mississippi
600-601
Arizona
667-675
Georgia
756-763
Tennessee
602-626
California
676-679
Arkansas
627-645
Texas
680-680
Nevada
646-647
Utah
681-690
N. Carolina
648-649
New Mexico
691-699
Virginia
NATIONAL GUARD
Enlisted National Guard (Service) Numbers 20,000,000-20,999,999: 1940-1946
Numbers starting 21 thru 29: 1946-1969
E-mail for
Details: hidavo@earthlink.net
SERVICE NUMBERS:
These are a bit tougher, as they lead you to 3 to 12 states the Vets were from. The following list shows RA (Regular Army 3-Year vets) and US (2-Year Inductees)
RA State
RA-11 CT, ME, MA, NH, RI, VT
RA-12 DE, NJ, NY
RA-13 MD, PA, VA
RA-14 AL, FL, GA, MS, NC, SC, TN
RA-15 IN, OH, KY, WV
RA-16 IL, MI, WI
RA-17 CO, IA, KS, MN, MO, NE, ND, SD, WY
RA-18 AR, LA, NM, OK, TX
RA-19
AK, AZ, CA, ID, MT, NV, OR, UT, WA
RA-37 Hawaii for 1940-46 draftees
RA-67
RA-68 UNKNOWN
not issued by states,
issued by Army
RA-101 Hawaii (RA/US 37 for 1940-46 draftees)
RA-102 Panama (RA/US 302 for 1940-46 draftees)
RA-104 Puerto Rico (RA/US 304 for 1940-46 draftees)
RA-302 Panama for 1940-46 draftees
RA-304 Puerto Rico for 1940-46 draftees
US State
US-37 Hawaii for 1940-46 draftees
US-50 AK, HI, Panama, PR
US-51 CT, DE, MA, ME, NH, NJ, NY, RI, VT
US-52 IN, KY, MD, OH, PA, VA, WV
US-53 AL, FL, GA, MS, NC, SC, TN
US-54 AR, LA, NM, OK, TX
US-55 CO, IL, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, NE, ND, SD, WI, WY
US-56 AZ, CA, ID, MT, NV, OR, UT, WA
US-63
US-64
US-67
US-68 UNKNOWN
not issued by states,
issued by the Army and probably mean the year issued(?)
US-302 Panama for 1940-46 draftees
US-304 Puerto Rico for 1940-46 draftees
US-501 Panama (RA/US 302 for 1940-46 draftees) Puerto Rico (RA/US 304 for 1940-46 draftees)
US-502 AK
Numbers starting with NG = National Guard ER = Enlisted Reserve. These are not found too often, but I do have the info upon request. I have not made a list to send via e-mail.
Officers are usually not listed on morning rosters, and are the hardest to find. I find most via orders men send in. Officers are more prone to NOT be in the states born in, enlisted and inducted men who have more of the blue-collar type jobs, Ive found IN or near their original states.
AMERICAN WAR LIBRARY on the Internet: Ive tried the service, couldnt ever get in via phone modem, I now feel it is not worth the money.
PRO-CD PHONE BOOKS: At the cost of about $130.00 per year with limited print-outs, the store-bought computer program is useful in the fact that it gives you the closest 100 matches to what you enter into the search. In addition, you can look up the neighbor next door with a click, use map search, and do reverse address searches that Ive found very handy. Included is a business search, and street atlas. Ive found Vets by calling the people next door!
COPIES OF ORDERS: Ask your association members to look for orders they brought back from overseas, some have. They list up to, and sometimes over, 100 vets.
ASK FOR HELP: Other than having a web site that can be surfed to, searching can be very time consuming. Cold-calling on weekends and off-business hours can easily run in excess of $100.00 per month.
COLD-CALLING: Prepare a
short introduction to introduce yourself
with all the tele-marketers calling
these days, youll soon notice a bit of an attitude from some. However, if you can
get all the important info into your first or second sentence, you wont get a
hang-up. KISS: Keep it Simple Stupid!..
Hello, is this the John Doe residence? They always reply cautiously,.. Im looking
for a John D. Doe that served with the (Unit) in the Vietnam War
.they will reply.
About 99.9% of the vets I find are happy to be found we are in fact, a unique brotherhood.
Make a phone data sheet, keep it near the phone. Fill it out as you speak to the newly found member. Get all contact info, ask for names of others, old orders, etc. I always ask for nick-names used, and a name of a close buddy I could find for them.
BOOKS: The best book
Ive found about searching for military veterans is available through Amazon.com for
about $20.00
"How To Locate Anyone Who Is Or Has been In The
Military" by LTC Richard S. Johnson Order
book from Amazon.com
POSTAL TIP:
Always write: "1st Class Mail, Change Service Requested"
next to the address on the front of envelopes to veterans. This will improve your chances
of receiving an address correction if they have moved recently.
GOOD LUCK SEARCHING!
"Davo" - 7/15th Vietnam
Information written and
compiled by:
Dave Holdorf
15th Field Artillery
Group Leader
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